"Torture" and scapegoats

Recently Charles Graner, Jr. was sentenced to 10 years in prison for "assaulting and humiliating male detainees", according to this account. Sadly, I think this young man has been thrown to the wolves as a scapegoat. The intent is to innoculate Rumsfeld and Bush from the criticism of the NY Times and leftist Democrats like Ted Kennedy and Chuck Schumer.

Related are stories and accusations of "abuse" against prisoners in Gitmo.

To believe the prisoners in Abu Ghraib or Gitmo are peace loving, innocent victims caught in the wrong place at the wrong time is foolish. Without debating the specifics of the two situations, consider this.

When we capture bin Laden, should he be tortured to gain information about pending attacks?
When we capture Zarqawi, should he be tortured to gain information?
Should torture be used against Saddam Hussein to gain information about his WMD programs, as well as information about the enemies in Iraq we face now?

If you say no, you are a fool. Therefore, the question of torture is not whether it has legitimate value, but rather when to apply it, and to what degree.

Get off your high horse, and understand that America faces a radical element of islamo-fascists who have sawed the heads off of living human beings for no reason. We do not have the luxury of obeying international standards such as the Geneva Convention, especially since it doesn't even apply to these ununiformed murderers who follow no rules whatsoever as they terrorize people around the globe daily.